hopefully my code is not this kind…
If releasing .mse files is mostly a bad think.
Then a useful challenge would be to ‘recreate most of them’ using your own secrets/experience and make it public, here. or publishing them on scriptspot.
It’s a matter of picking random .mse-s and dedicate some time each week
with the help of these forums, will result even easier/faster/improved…
…will be more educational than the script source code itself.
No, your code is usually mostly c# source strings anyways
Maybe we should all post our solutions to questions here in .mse to ensure that no one takes the free effort of others and implements it in their encrypted free or commercial tool.
That is one of my big issues is don’t come here asking for help and then implement that help in your encrypted tool. If you want free help then release the code created with that free help.
-Eric
I don’t get this business, it feels to me like every one expects everything for free and gets pissed if you don’t spoon feed them tools and answers.
The knowledge that I have painstakingly gained over almost 20 years of doing this is worth something, why shouldn’t I try and protect it.
Now I don’t post free encrypted scripts on public forums and I only post free open source scripts on my site. But why shouldn’t some one try and protect what they know? I’m tried of the fact that my DVD series can be down loaded from Youtube for free because some one believes that knowledge should be free to all. I’m so tired of the fact that people think it should all be free that I have stopped sharing the information at the level of detail that I used to.
Don’t get me wrong, I have learned a whole lot from others that have shared in their knowledge over the years like Denis, Biddle and others but there are so many that don’t share unless they are sharing some one elses knowledge and not their own.
Many many times I have solved issues for people over the years just to find that they take credit for it later on. Or find just about exact duplicates of tools and again my DVD’s out there because some one just copied it and claim it for them selves.
I know, I’m ranting, But I’m also pissed that it is getting harder and harder to make a living in this business because I can’t profit from what I know any more.
So pixel_money, you want people to ‘pay’ for help by give out their code? So you will only help if you get something out of it. Just because they use the help for solving something you won’t get part of, doesn’t mean they don’t ‘repay’ the help, by helping others with their experience on other problems. And they don’t ask for ‘payment’ for that help either.
When I help someone with a problem, I don’t expect that they share everything with me, I do it to HELP them, and then maybe when I have problems with something another time, they might be able to help me. I don’t take payment in free scripts, hell, so far my only script is free for people to use as a tool (this means everyone, not just coders who wants to make it their own), but its still encrypted.
But you still feel its wrong, since you can’t cannibalise it for your own code, even though a lot of other people can use it, without looking under the hood? Even when you can just ask “How did you do this and that?”, you know, ask for help? Because that’s just what open scripts are, help, but of course the difference is that you don’t ask for it.
That’s my big issue, people who claim they help for free, but still expect to be compensated by free code, instead of just asking how others did it, and making people who encrypt code as bad people who got something to hide and is just leeching.
If you expect me to pay for the help I gave you for free in a commercial tool, yes.
That’s my big issue, people who claim they help for free, but still expect to be compensated by free code, instead of just asking how others did it, and making people who encrypt code as bad people who got something to hide and is just leeching.
If you are using the code it should be released in the same manner it was provided, IMHO. To prevent others from taking credit for what is done around here I may have to review some of the licenses out there and start posting my help under one of those to prevent others from hiding my work as their own. Or build them as .mse functions so that it needs to be distributed with others tools, rather than embedded in their encrypted tools.
-Eric
McGreed, was that directed at me or Eric?
Pen, that was for Eric and other upwards. You posted yours while I was still writing and ranting.
May I remind your previous post:
[i]I just made my first proper maxscript and released it for free, but its encrypted. And the reason for that is that for the first, since I just gotten into learning maxscript, my code is a mess, so I like to make a couple updates before I let someone look at it.
[/i]Now as I understood you don’t suppose to open the code.
I have to say it again. I’m NOT against encrypting of scripts. For example I encrypt my scripts when they go to contractors or in outsourcing company. Because those scripts are not FREE at all. It makes sense. But people help other with free tool, this tool is encrypted… I don’t know qualification of the author, I don’t know what the script is doing inside… I saw a lot of scripts (encrypted or open) which clogged any system by their unskillful callback functions. And they might have pretty good rating on ScriptSpot for example. How can I trust an encrypted tool remembering the author only by his beginners questions? Show your code, show your skill… Users will trust you. And next time you might sell a tool and make your profit.
I understand what you saying, but your point of view is only one sided, from the point of view of the coder and not from everyone else who can used the tool itself. If you are helping someone who makes a free tool, it helps everyone who makes 3D but doesn’t code. If its not encrypted it also gives people an insight to how the tool is made. However, having it encrypted and free doesn’t make it less useful. And the person who made the free, but encrypted, script is still another one who can help others with his experience, that doesn’t go away whatever its encrypted or not.